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Kyle VanEtten's avatar

There is so much here that resonates with what God was teaching me during my sabbatical. One core thing I have pulled from that time is that I would rather wrestle with God and hope to lose than wrestle with Satan and hope to win. Your words above about recognizing these thoughts/feelings and turning to the love of God with them is exactly that!

Also I would say that for some of us the logismoi is triggered more by interactions with others and for some maybe more in our own interior feelings of accomplishment or failure. I see the “hunger for recognition” you name but I also feel the “desire to be good, with the awareness of my brokenness and sin” sort of a Romans 7 - I do not do what I want to do, and I hate what I do, for I have the desire to do good, but I cannot carry it out.” I feel like in those moments of interior awareness or remembering the logismoi come on fast.

Anyway - I really appreciated this one Jason, thank you for your thoughts here, for taking the time to write and share them!

Tom Boyle's avatar

Really, really great reading! I love your thinking. I had the enormous privilege of being in the very first incarnation of the Transforming Center in Chicago in 2002. It confused me a lot. I went back to TC4 4 years later, and the material finally made sense and touched my spirit in necessary ways. I then volunteered as an intercessor for 6 other communities, which means I went through the entire teaching 8 different times - and prayed, and prayed, and prayed. I. Loved. It. It was what my soul needed and what my heart was crying out for, while my head was very gradually releasing control. When I finished my last community in 2021 I had finally grasped that my heart was primary and my mind was secondary. It was a slow maturing process, but so life giving and encouraging. Your writing brings me back to those recently formed roots and affirms that the heart journey remains primary. Thank You!!

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